ShallHelp Chat Forum : Welcome to the Chat Forum! Chat sessions are automatically erased every 60 minutes. Just select the REFRESH link above to go to the latest chat session. We are glad you are here! CrisW : 9:07 Consultant :late. CrisW : lol Consultant :Who else will be here? CrisW : The stalkers and the lurkers CrisW :lol Consultant : So you are leaving? CrisW : Yes, so I am going to try to knock out as much as I can today. Long drive. Consultant : Is it safe to drive out there? CrisW : If I hit any impassable roads, I just make a uturn CrisW :I will not risk sinking my beloved Mission Van, plus its contents 🙂 Consultant : You going with some people? CrisW : I just got notified last night via text. I asked for prayers for it, and I also prayed about it. Thunderstorms here were nasty. CrisW : I feel so bad for the people in Lousiana, they got hit by Hurrican Laura, and then Delta, last year, and the Winter Storm, last February (well we got hit here too) and then now these storms Consultant : How long will you be out? CrisW : If I finish everything today, I’d drive out there tonight. If not, I will drive out tomorrow morning. CrisW :Or this afternoon. I’d much rather drive while there’s light. I remember there are road constructions a couple of weeks ago when I went to the Texas Border Consultant : Well, be careful. Just text me when able to let us know you are safe. CrisW : Yes, I’ll take pictures and videos. Consultant : You want me to make placeholders at the forum? CrisW : Can you copy this? Consultant : I looked at accuweather, Lousiana is pretty “under the water” are you sure driving out there with your rig is safe? CrisW : There’s a bigger rig travelling right now from North Carolina to Lousiana, and that’s heavier than my rig 🙂 CrisW : No worries, like I said, if I see impassable roads, I’ll make a uturn and then just wait when the water subsides. CrisW : From the news, there’s been several deaths, 3 were from “submerged” vehicles. Flash floods are no joke. Consultant : You have a place to stay there? CrisW : Yes, the people who will help will be housed at the church, that’s how it’s usually done. We meet up there and we get to work. Consultant :Will this man G be there? CrisW : I have no idea. CrisW : When I go to those places to help, I pretty much keep to myself. I usually pray with the homeowners. All those are just fleeting moments. When a hurting human is met by other humans that God moves to help out. Consultant :Be careful. CrisW : I will. CrisW : Hey can we test the careers page again, with the contact page? Consultant : Here? Or at CLG? CrisW : Here. Consultant : Ok. Will copy paste this. CrisW : Cool. Thanks!
It’s easier to copy paste on the forum.
Looks okay and simple.
I just created 3 test positions and 3 categories. Little tweaks I did was to just add the Return to Jobs Page link at the bottom of the job description.
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We should have taken screenshots of the JobApp we tested previously. Anyway, I’m taking screenshots now of how this one looks like. I created three different sample Job Positions
Test FULL TIME SCREENSHOT
Anyone outside can apply or do they have to create an account first?
We will find out. We log out and apply 🙂 Or you log out. 🙂
The hassle of recaptcha. I think this one should have one. Unless you have to register first before you can apply.
I just added the recaptcha on the Application Form. Please refresh page!
Applied with recaptcha, then form resets.
“Your application has been submitted.”
Applicant receives this email, then CCing the HR person’s email:
“Subject: Thanks for submitting your application for a job at ShallHelp
Dear Testername Fulltimer Jr.,
This is to let you know that we have received your application. We
appreciate your interest in ShallHelp and the position of Test Full Time
Job for which you applied. If you are selected for an interview, you can
expect a phone call from our Human Resources staff shortly.
Thank you, again, for your interest in our company. We do appreciate the
time that you invested in this application.
Sincerely
HR Manager
ShallHelp”
I CHANGED this to
Dear {applicant},
Thank you for applying for the position of {job-title} at {company}. If you are selected for an interview, we will email you to schedule a mutually convenient time to discuss more details.
We appreciate your interest in our company and the time that you invested in this application.
All the best,
HR Team
{company}
The HR Manager receives the following email:
Job Opening: Test Full Time Job [5060]
Name: Testername Fulltimer Jr.
Email: APPLICANT EMAIL REDACTED
Phone: APPLICANT PHONE # REDACTED
Resume: exact URL location REDACTED
Cover letter: I will cover this position. Promise! Testing cover letter form.
Powered by the powerful. 🙂
The URL link to the resume displays the Applicant’s resume, the pdf’s file name is automatically changed to Applicants Full Name, then _ resume. Then HR downloads it.
I think this Simple Job App is okay to keep or use. The devs also have upgrades that you can purchase, if you want any bells and whistles. But on it’s own, this can work for simple positions and also for companies that only have a few available jobs to post.
Best, yet, it’s free! 🙂
So for those huge recruitment agencies, this is all they do?
Yes, it all gets pooled into an applicant database. The bells and whistles, an employer or recruiter, can tag an applicant, if they use third party software.
The danger there is HOW these third party software uses the INFO and DATA of the applicants.
For me personally, I always suggest that an HR Contact Form (it’s all basically a contact form with different fields) BE HOUSED from within the company’s database, and not a paid third party site.
Like this one we are testing, the DATA is kept within our servers. Safer for the applicants.
The previous job app we tested is for ANYBODY to be able to post a job or project.
This one is just for a company with a website. They can have their own Job App. (Without having to spend extra anymore for other “websites” and then all they have are a “subdomain” and then the FROM email, comes from the third party site.)
That’s why even the Ticket Systems, We have that on a specific site, so that the client can see the FROM email address comes from the company itself, providing the Support.
I never got it why companies would pay for external companies that handle their ticket system or their HR process. It’s dangerous for the applicants, and when they are eventually hired, they also expose their employees data to these third party site.
I just checked my email, a former client who does that, the third party they are using, are STILL sending me solicitation emails.
That’s why, have a specific email for a specific use, or specific company. So if it your email gets compromised, you know WHO sold your data.
It’s like whack-a-mole
I learned of that “patented” program that does that. That’s why it’s tough for people with compromised email addresses to switch to the next, because of those types of trackers.
So, your test post will auto expire?
We can passively test that. I set it up supposedly to not display, when it expires. So what should display is “no jobs available” by tomorrow. Or something like that.
I also set the applicant’s details on the website to be automatically deleted after 1 month in order to protect applicant data (data submitted on the Job Application Page plus resume). The HR person should have the applicant’s details anyway, as sent via the application workflow. There is also an option to “Force Delete” all Applications.
Hey, thanks for helping out today. Gotta start preparing my Mission Van for my trip. 🙂
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CrisW : 9:07
Consultant :late.
CrisW : lol
Consultant :Who else will be here?
CrisW : The stalkers and the lurkers
CrisW :lol
Consultant : So you are leaving?
CrisW : Yes, so I am going to try to knock out as much as I can today. Long drive.
Consultant : Is it safe to drive out there?
CrisW : If I hit any impassable roads, I just make a uturn
CrisW :I will not risk sinking my beloved Mission Van, plus its contents 🙂
Consultant : You going with some people?
CrisW : I just got notified last night via text. I asked for prayers for it, and I also prayed about it. Thunderstorms here were nasty.
CrisW : I feel so bad for the people in Lousiana, they got hit by Hurrican Laura, and then Delta, last year, and the Winter Storm, last February (well we got hit here too) and then now these storms
Consultant : How long will you be out?
CrisW : If I finish everything today, I’d drive out there tonight. If not, I will drive out tomorrow morning.
CrisW :Or this afternoon. I’d much rather drive while there’s light. I remember there are road constructions a couple of weeks ago when I went to the Texas Border
Consultant : Well, be careful. Just text me when able to let us know you are safe.
CrisW : Yes, I’ll take pictures and videos.
Consultant : You want me to make placeholders at the forum?
CrisW : Can you copy this?
Consultant : I looked at accuweather, Lousiana is pretty “under the water” are you sure driving out there with your rig is safe?
CrisW : There’s a bigger rig travelling right now from North Carolina to Lousiana, and that’s heavier than my rig 🙂
CrisW : No worries, like I said, if I see impassable roads, I’ll make a uturn and then just wait when the water subsides.
CrisW : From the news, there’s been several deaths, 3 were from “submerged” vehicles. Flash floods are no joke.
Consultant : You have a place to stay there?
CrisW : Yes, the people who will help will be housed at the church, that’s how it’s usually done. We meet up there and we get to work.
Consultant :Will this man G be there?
CrisW : I have no idea.
CrisW : When I go to those places to help, I pretty much keep to myself. I usually pray with the homeowners. All those are just fleeting moments. When a hurting human is met by other humans that God moves to help out.
Consultant :Be careful.
CrisW : I will.
CrisW : Hey can we test the careers page again, with the contact page?
Consultant : Here? Or at CLG?
CrisW : Here.
Consultant : Ok. Will copy paste this.
CrisW : Cool. Thanks!
It’s easier to copy paste on the forum.
Looks okay and simple.
I just created 3 test positions and 3 categories. Little tweaks I did was to just add the Return to Jobs Page link at the bottom of the job description.
Return to Jobs Page
Go apply. 🙂
Screenshot of JOB PAGE
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By using this form you agree with the storage and handling of your data by this website. *
Changed TO
I give my consent for ShallHelp to process my data submitted on this form, in accordance to ShallHelp's Terms of Use and Privacy Policies.
We should have taken screenshots of the JobApp we tested previously. Anyway, I’m taking screenshots now of how this one looks like. I created three different sample Job Positions
Test FULL TIME SCREENSHOT
Anyone outside can apply or do they have to create an account first?
We will find out. We log out and apply 🙂 Or you log out. 🙂
The hassle of recaptcha. I think this one should have one. Unless you have to register first before you can apply.
I just added the recaptcha on the Application Form. Please refresh page!
Applied with recaptcha, then form resets.
“Your application has been submitted.”
Applicant receives this email, then CCing the HR person’s email:
“Subject: Thanks for submitting your application for a job at ShallHelp
Dear Testername Fulltimer Jr.,
This is to let you know that we have received your application. We
appreciate your interest in ShallHelp and the position of Test Full Time
Job for which you applied. If you are selected for an interview, you can
expect a phone call from our Human Resources staff shortly.
Thank you, again, for your interest in our company. We do appreciate the
time that you invested in this application.
Sincerely
HR Manager
ShallHelp”
I CHANGED this to
Dear {applicant},
Thank you for applying for the position of {job-title} at {company}. If you are selected for an interview, we will email you to schedule a mutually convenient time to discuss more details.
We appreciate your interest in our company and the time that you invested in this application.
All the best,
HR Team
{company}
The HR Manager receives the following email:
Job Opening: Test Full Time Job [5060]
Name: Testername Fulltimer Jr.
Email: APPLICANT EMAIL REDACTED
Phone: APPLICANT PHONE # REDACTED
Resume: exact URL location REDACTED
Cover letter: I will cover this position. Promise! Testing cover letter form.
Powered by the powerful. 🙂
The URL link to the resume displays the Applicant’s resume, the pdf’s file name is automatically changed to Applicants Full Name, then _ resume. Then HR downloads it.
I think this Simple Job App is okay to keep or use. The devs also have upgrades that you can purchase, if you want any bells and whistles. But on it’s own, this can work for simple positions and also for companies that only have a few available jobs to post.
Best, yet, it’s free! 🙂
So for those huge recruitment agencies, this is all they do?
Yes, it all gets pooled into an applicant database. The bells and whistles, an employer or recruiter, can tag an applicant, if they use third party software.
The danger there is HOW these third party software uses the INFO and DATA of the applicants.
For me personally, I always suggest that an HR Contact Form (it’s all basically a contact form with different fields) BE HOUSED from within the company’s database, and not a paid third party site.
Like this one we are testing, the DATA is kept within our servers. Safer for the applicants.
The previous job app we tested is for ANYBODY to be able to post a job or project.
This one is just for a company with a website. They can have their own Job App. (Without having to spend extra anymore for other “websites” and then all they have are a “subdomain” and then the FROM email, comes from the third party site.)
That’s why even the Ticket Systems, We have that on a specific site, so that the client can see the FROM email address comes from the company itself, providing the Support.
I never got it why companies would pay for external companies that handle their ticket system or their HR process. It’s dangerous for the applicants, and when they are eventually hired, they also expose their employees data to these third party site.
I just checked my email, a former client who does that, the third party they are using, are STILL sending me solicitation emails.
That’s why, have a specific email for a specific use, or specific company. So if it your email gets compromised, you know WHO sold your data.
It’s like whack-a-mole
I learned of that “patented” program that does that. That’s why it’s tough for people with compromised email addresses to switch to the next, because of those types of trackers.
So, your test post will auto expire?
We can passively test that. I set it up supposedly to not display, when it expires. So what should display is “no jobs available” by tomorrow. Or something like that.
I also set the applicant’s details on the website to be automatically deleted after 1 month in order to protect applicant data (data submitted on the Job Application Page plus resume). The HR person should have the applicant’s details anyway, as sent via the application workflow. There is also an option to “Force Delete” all Applications.
Hey, thanks for helping out today. Gotta start preparing my Mission Van for my trip. 🙂
Cool. NP. YW. TC. 🙂