ShallHelp Chat Forum : Welcome to the Chat Forum! Chat sessions are automatically erased every 60 minutes. Just select the REFRESH link above to go to the latest chat session. We are glad you are here! CrisW : Hi Consultant :On the chat, is when the google popup appears CrisW : Yes. That’s a goo gle notification thing. Just x out of it. CrisW :I am just clicking the x CrisW : Now this is annoying because I just cleared all cookies. CrisW : The prompt says “wants to Show notifications” Consultant :none appears on incognito Consultant :Now there is a new SAC icon appearing… Consultant :on incognito Consultant :then it automatically slides from the bottom left Consultant : now this will get really annoying quick! One notification piles on top of the other and then WILL cover the Message text box! CrisW :It’s working like the Message Notifications on mobile phones. CrisW : Who updated the chat????? Consultant : Just imagine when there are 5 people chatting CrisW : Lemme check if I can configure, or put an older version of it. Consultant :It’s annoying on incognito. CrisW : Hey copy this first, so I can look at code. Let’s chat on the comments for a bit. I’ll OFF this for a while. Consultant : ok
BruteSquad :Hello BruteSquad :All looks ok. BruteSquad :There’s danger in clicking “Block all notifications from this site” – that notification didn’t used to be there. BruteSquad : No pop up displays on my phone. CrisW : I will look at the code and see what changed, (WHO UPDATED IT????? ) CrisW : That’s why Admins, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it! Consultant :Ok. Will copy this. Most probably SysAdmin updated it. (is the one accessing that account new?) CrisW :Yes. Anyway, I’ll be hunting for code. CrisW :Or revert back to an earlier version. But I think the problem with that (reading Jeffs notes) were the “needles” erroring out on the Pages. So okay, thanks for looking! I appreciate it! Consultant :Cool. I’ll copy this again. CrisW :Thanks! BruteSquad : Ok. Signal me when needed. CrisW : Ok. Thank you!
I am seeing the logic behind the Notification pop up.
So if you are not on the chat page, that would momentarily display. The icon though, is colored blue and looks distracting, so …
Removed the Icon on sac, line 669
Changed FROM this: icon:'',
TO this: icon:'< ? php echo plugins_url(basename(dirname(dirname(__FILE__)))) .'',
The COMPLETE code above ^^ will display on the back end but not on the front end.
Above code is useless now since I reverted back to a previous STABLE version. No updates needed.
ShallHelp Chat Forum : Welcome to the Chat Forum! Chat sessions are automatically erased every 60 minutes. Just select the REFRESH link above to go to the latest chat session. We are glad you are here! CrisW : changed line 663 to false CrisW : removed second function CrisW : I have to disable the pop up because there’s only two choices, Allow or Block. If the user clicks BLOCK, then all the notifications from the browser will be blocked. CrisW : From our website, which would be bad because there are useful notifications. CrisW : This new functionality notification is horrible for UIX. Example, on the CLG website, if someone is trying to read the bible and ALSO logged in, these pop ups will also display. CrisW : Geddit?!!!! ‘ CrisW : So, ADMINS PUHLEEASEEEE DO NOT CLICK THOSE UPDATE BUTTONS!!!!!! CrisW : Now I am wasting my billable hours hunting for code instead of doing vendor’s Knowledgebase / portals!!!! CrisW : another example is in a Shop… CrisW : So imagine this now, your customer is looking at a product and then added to cart, then people are chatting …. that pop up would ALSO display on the Shop … one on top of the other. CrisW : From the previous version, the chat ONLY displays in 1 page, or in pages where an admin specifies it to appear. CrisW : This notification leaves the user no choice but to BLOCK it. My goal is to disable it without causing other issues.
I’ve decided to roll this back to Version v20181114, with a back up I have from CLG Main files.
CLG is becoming a Savior site too! 🙂 Where I can refer back to what I did from previous installations.
So to safely do this:
1) Copy the settings to a Notepad file
2) Deactivate
3) Delete – what this does is remove and clean up your database, so that when you install another instance, you won’t error out.
4) Upload your backup via FTP
5) Refresh from the WP Backend
6) Copy paste old settings
7) I am going to do that beginning now.
8) Ok done.
I should have done this earlier.
9) Then deactivate, reactivate, and on the Front End press Control F5 to test.
10) All works again without notifications. Because it is creepy when all of a sudden some Browser pop up displays and says … “ShallHelp wants to ask permission to send notifications” when ME the developer of this site DID NOT put that there and DOES NOT NEED to be snooping so much on this site’s website visitors.
11) When a web visitor clicks that “Block notification” from this website (that I did not put there, nor is there any need for it really), whose domain name gets punished for “blocked content”? Hmmm?
Not rocket science. So SIMPLE really is better.
ShallHelp Chat Forum : Welcome to the Chat Forum! Chat sessions are automatically erased every 60 minutes. Just select the REFRESH link above to go to the latest chat session. We are glad you are here! Consultant :Hey Mod said you are going to help another person asking for help? Are you serious? CrisW : Help like how? Consultant :Website help? CrisW : If I can just give comments or feedback on how they can improve their site, why not? Consultant : For free? CrisW :I already do that by sharing my codes here. CrisW : Or my technical verbal diarrhea out here.. LOL! Consultant :You still have a lot to do here though! CrisW :Yes I noticed! Consultant :Did you finish the scheduler yet and the ticket system? CrisW : Wow. Bossy. CrisW : Yes on another portal. CrisW : The thing I need to do is to put the scheduler in one spot too, so that all billable hours are in one spot. CrisW : Right now, I split it all up. Consultant : I suggest you just point that person here, and then let them figure it out too. Consultant : Because I know it will really piss you off more if you build something for them (for free) and then they don’t value the effort (because they did not spend time learning and doing it themselves). CrisW : Yes, I’ll consider your input. Thank you. CrisW : There are people who are active on social media and they can share it there too. CrisW :Or they can build a free blog at WP. Most people don’t know that, and so I thought I would suggest that too. CrisW : You are right, people think what I do is easy, when they have no idea how many thousands of hours I have spent learning these things and then knowing how to troubleshoot, drawing from previous projects. Consultant : People use you too like USE. That’s why it should NOT be free! Consultant : People value what they pay for. CrisW : The person said she doesn’t want to impose and said she will pay. But I also know her income is limited. So, I will pray about it. CrisW : I want her to be able to manage her site on her own. So maybe I can also just share with her the documentation I have been making. CrisW : So she can also learn. CrisW : I said I will check my calendar and to do list, I know I have a lot of things that I still need to do. So I will prioritize. Consultant : Cool CrisW : Thanks for the input. I need to get reminded too. 🙂 CrisW :If I can point someone to the right direction I always will, to the best of my ability. I can sense it when people are trying to get “free consulting” like the other top IT guy. That was sneaky. It would have been better if he just humbly asked, “I don’t know how to do this, can you help me?” Or “what issues have you seen on ecommerce sites that I should CrisW : watch out for?” Instead, that SNARK smirk, was what I got. Waste of time! Consultant : Right! Consultant : So lesson for the day… CrisW : Use the version at CLG, do not update. Safely remove the latest version, because it does not apply for our specific use case. CrisW : Don’t put a “chat” function on your Shop. CrisW :I put it on the New Store Marketplace I’m building just to test. Then I password protected the chat page and then disabled the functionality. CrisW : So the stable versions are at CLG Main and SF Main. CrisW : Can you copy this? And thank you! Consultant : NP
I copy pasted this from one of my “Documentation”
So know your State and Local Sales Tax Rates. Marketplaces like E Bay, Am azon and other bigger ones have passed the $500,000 Gross Sales threshold (or 200 transaction sales) so they are required to have the permits in all of the States that they do business in.
My first thought was, those types of regulations are all just going to crush small online stores quick. 🙁
Anyway, so that was why I was asked many many times by different people to build something like this.
Or, I can just document these things that I know so that they can make their own informed decision whether to go forward with selling on a Marketplace OR Building their own Online Stores.
My best advise – go build your Own Store. 🙂
That’s why I am documenting these things. Because me helping one, will take away from the time I have – when if I just do it like this, I can help more people.
I am duplicating myself. Consider these things and points that I have documented. It’s not impossible to do. It’s not super hard to do. It’s tedious. It’s not easy. But you can do it, if you want to do it. I also have been burnt by me doing something and then people didn’t value what I did. (to the Nth degree – that happened a lot of times). And then they just gave up. And what that was tantamount to in the end, was just I wasted my time.
That was why I started doing the appointment scheduler years ago. I know what my strengths and weaknesses are. So, I am willing to help those who will be in their own online business for the long haul. I understand too, that there are some people who don’t want to pay for my hourly rate. But they want to take my hour (or hours) doing technical stuff for them. For free. How is that fair?
ShallHelp Chat Forum : Welcome to the Chat Forum! Chat sessions are automatically erased every 60 minutes. Just select the REFRESH link above to go to the latest chat session. We are glad you are here!
CrisW : Hi
Consultant :On the chat, is when the google popup appears
CrisW : Yes. That’s a goo gle notification thing. Just x out of it.
CrisW :I am just clicking the x
CrisW : Now this is annoying because I just cleared all cookies.
CrisW : The prompt says “wants to Show notifications”
Consultant :none appears on incognito
Consultant :Now there is a new SAC icon appearing…
Consultant :on incognito
Consultant :then it automatically slides from the bottom left
Consultant : now this will get really annoying quick! One notification piles on top of the other and then WILL cover the Message text box!
CrisW :It’s working like the Message Notifications on mobile phones.
CrisW : Who updated the chat?????
Consultant : Just imagine when there are 5 people chatting
CrisW : Lemme check if I can configure, or put an older version of it.
Consultant :It’s annoying on incognito.
CrisW : Hey copy this first, so I can look at code. Let’s chat on the comments for a bit. I’ll OFF this for a while.
Consultant : ok
BruteSquad :Hello
BruteSquad :All looks ok.
BruteSquad :There’s danger in clicking “Block all notifications from this site” – that notification didn’t used to be there.
BruteSquad : No pop up displays on my phone.
CrisW : I will look at the code and see what changed, (WHO UPDATED IT????? )
CrisW : That’s why Admins, if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it!
Consultant :Ok. Will copy this. Most probably SysAdmin updated it. (is the one accessing that account new?)
CrisW :Yes. Anyway, I’ll be hunting for code.
CrisW :Or revert back to an earlier version. But I think the problem with that (reading Jeffs notes) were the “needles” erroring out on the Pages. So okay, thanks for looking! I appreciate it!
Consultant :Cool. I’ll copy this again.
CrisW :Thanks!
BruteSquad : Ok. Signal me when needed.
CrisW : Ok. Thank you!
I am seeing the logic behind the Notification pop up.
So if you are not on the chat page, that would momentarily display. The icon though, is colored blue and looks distracting, so …
Removed the Icon on sac, line 669
Changed FROM this:
icon:'',
TO this:
icon:'< ? php echo plugins_url(basename(dirname(dirname(__FILE__)))) .'',The COMPLETE code above ^^ will display on the back end but not on the front end.
Above code is useless now since I reverted back to a previous STABLE version. No updates needed.
ShallHelp Chat Forum : Welcome to the Chat Forum! Chat sessions are automatically erased every 60 minutes. Just select the REFRESH link above to go to the latest chat session. We are glad you are here!
CrisW : changed line 663 to false
CrisW : removed second function
CrisW : I have to disable the pop up because there’s only two choices, Allow or Block. If the user clicks BLOCK, then all the notifications from the browser will be blocked.
CrisW : From our website, which would be bad because there are useful notifications.
CrisW : This new functionality notification is horrible for UIX. Example, on the CLG website, if someone is trying to read the bible and ALSO logged in, these pop ups will also display.
CrisW : Geddit?!!!! ‘
CrisW : So, ADMINS PUHLEEASEEEE DO NOT CLICK THOSE UPDATE BUTTONS!!!!!!
CrisW : Now I am wasting my billable hours hunting for code instead of doing vendor’s Knowledgebase / portals!!!!
CrisW : another example is in a Shop…
CrisW : So imagine this now, your customer is looking at a product and then added to cart, then people are chatting …. that pop up would ALSO display on the Shop … one on top of the other.
CrisW : From the previous version, the chat ONLY displays in 1 page, or in pages where an admin specifies it to appear.
CrisW : This notification leaves the user no choice but to BLOCK it. My goal is to disable it without causing other issues.
I’ve decided to roll this back to Version v20181114, with a back up I have from CLG Main files.
CLG is becoming a Savior site too! 🙂 Where I can refer back to what I did from previous installations.
So to safely do this:
1) Copy the settings to a Notepad file
2) Deactivate
3) Delete – what this does is remove and clean up your database, so that when you install another instance, you won’t error out.
4) Upload your backup via FTP
5) Refresh from the WP Backend
6) Copy paste old settings
7) I am going to do that beginning now.
8) Ok done.
I should have done this earlier.
9) Then deactivate, reactivate, and on the Front End press Control F5 to test.
10) All works again without notifications. Because it is creepy when all of a sudden some Browser pop up displays and says … “ShallHelp wants to ask permission to send notifications” when ME the developer of this site DID NOT put that there and DOES NOT NEED to be snooping so much on this site’s website visitors.
11) When a web visitor clicks that “Block notification” from this website (that I did not put there, nor is there any need for it really), whose domain name gets punished for “blocked content”? Hmmm?
Not rocket science. So SIMPLE really is better.
ShallHelp Chat Forum : Welcome to the Chat Forum! Chat sessions are automatically erased every 60 minutes. Just select the REFRESH link above to go to the latest chat session. We are glad you are here!
Consultant :Hey Mod said you are going to help another person asking for help? Are you serious?
CrisW : Help like how?
Consultant :Website help?
CrisW : If I can just give comments or feedback on how they can improve their site, why not?
Consultant : For free?
CrisW :I already do that by sharing my codes here.
CrisW : Or my technical verbal diarrhea out here.. LOL!
Consultant :You still have a lot to do here though!
CrisW :Yes I noticed!
Consultant :Did you finish the scheduler yet and the ticket system?
CrisW : Wow. Bossy.
CrisW : Yes on another portal.
CrisW : The thing I need to do is to put the scheduler in one spot too, so that all billable hours are in one spot.
CrisW : Right now, I split it all up.
Consultant : I suggest you just point that person here, and then let them figure it out too.
Consultant : Because I know it will really piss you off more if you build something for them (for free) and then they don’t value the effort (because they did not spend time learning and doing it themselves).
CrisW : Yes, I’ll consider your input. Thank you.
CrisW : There are people who are active on social media and they can share it there too.
CrisW :Or they can build a free blog at WP. Most people don’t know that, and so I thought I would suggest that too.
CrisW : You are right, people think what I do is easy, when they have no idea how many thousands of hours I have spent learning these things and then knowing how to troubleshoot, drawing from previous projects.
Consultant : People use you too like USE. That’s why it should NOT be free!
Consultant : People value what they pay for.
CrisW : The person said she doesn’t want to impose and said she will pay. But I also know her income is limited. So, I will pray about it.
CrisW : I want her to be able to manage her site on her own. So maybe I can also just share with her the documentation I have been making.
CrisW : So she can also learn.
CrisW : I said I will check my calendar and to do list, I know I have a lot of things that I still need to do. So I will prioritize.
Consultant : Cool
CrisW : Thanks for the input. I need to get reminded too. 🙂
CrisW :If I can point someone to the right direction I always will, to the best of my ability. I can sense it when people are trying to get “free consulting” like the other top IT guy. That was sneaky. It would have been better if he just humbly asked, “I don’t know how to do this, can you help me?” Or “what issues have you seen on ecommerce sites that I should
CrisW : watch out for?” Instead, that SNARK smirk, was what I got. Waste of time!
Consultant : Right!
Consultant : So lesson for the day…
CrisW : Use the version at CLG, do not update. Safely remove the latest version, because it does not apply for our specific use case.
CrisW : Don’t put a “chat” function on your Shop.
CrisW :I put it on the New Store Marketplace I’m building just to test. Then I password protected the chat page and then disabled the functionality.
CrisW : So the stable versions are at CLG Main and SF Main.
CrisW : Can you copy this? And thank you!
Consultant : NP
I copy pasted this from one of my “Documentation”
So know your State and Local Sales Tax Rates. Marketplaces like E Bay, Am azon and other bigger ones have passed the $500,000 Gross Sales threshold (or 200 transaction sales) so they are required to have the permits in all of the States that they do business in.
My first thought was, those types of regulations are all just going to crush small online stores quick. 🙁
Anyway, so that was why I was asked many many times by different people to build something like this.
Or, I can just document these things that I know so that they can make their own informed decision whether to go forward with selling on a Marketplace OR Building their own Online Stores.
My best advise – go build your Own Store. 🙂
That’s why I am documenting these things. Because me helping one, will take away from the time I have – when if I just do it like this, I can help more people.
I am duplicating myself. Consider these things and points that I have documented. It’s not impossible to do. It’s not super hard to do. It’s tedious. It’s not easy. But you can do it, if you want to do it. I also have been burnt by me doing something and then people didn’t value what I did. (to the Nth degree – that happened a lot of times). And then they just gave up. And what that was tantamount to in the end, was just I wasted my time.
That was why I started doing the appointment scheduler years ago. I know what my strengths and weaknesses are. So, I am willing to help those who will be in their own online business for the long haul. I understand too, that there are some people who don’t want to pay for my hourly rate. But they want to take my hour (or hours) doing technical stuff for them. For free. How is that fair?
So everyone goes through the Scheduler. 🙂
There’s a Sales Tax for that too. 🙁